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Post by spunkymonkey on Oct 31, 2010 11:15:14 GMT
Now our Daffodil has a name, and is very much not hypothetical any more, she needs her own thread and this is it! Bessie has, for some reason we don't quite understand (ie: it just sort of happened) been renamed Matilda. I won't copy stuff over from the hypothetical thread but any updates on progress will be in here from now on. It's Sian's birthday today so probably won't be doing much, if anything, on her today (although..... ;D ) but watch this space. Meanwhile, a first picture to get this going:
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Post by spunkymonkey on Oct 31, 2010 16:16:55 GMT
No-photo update today because we just popped down for about 1/2 hour to check over a couple of bits. being Sian's birthday, and being expected at her parent's for a meal later, we decided that a day up to our ears in soot and oil probably wasn't a good plan Still, managed to confirm a few good points without getting more than a little dusty: Her jacking points are both sound - checked by jacking her up high enough (using her own jack) to get the back end on stands both sides. It was a little hairy doing the second one - for those who don't know this model, the jack lifts both wheels on a side off the ground at the same time. So she was balanced (briefly) on a jack one side, one front tyre on the other, and an axle stand at the back of the drivers door. Not the most stable position to be in, but nothing went through the floor, or even creaked like it wanted to! Both half-shafts are intact, despite some spirited dragging around against binding brakes to get her out of the garage, loaded, unloaded again and into the workshop. Haven't got the vario covers off yet but I suspect that the sort of rhythmic "lumpy" feeling (that I was worried might be transmission related) as we were pushing her may well be one or both of the belts permanently set in an oval shape after all these years! The primary diaphragms are intact, tested using the "blow" test down the pipes. the pipes also have some rust inside, tested by not getting my mouth out of the way fast enough after blowing and inhaling some of it as it was blown back out ;D The visible brake pipes seem to be good, without even surface rust. On the other hand, there's no fluid in the system at all so all cylinders etc will need changing - would be expecting that after all this time anyway! The carpet looks saveable on closer inspection. The backing is weak but not actually falling apart yet and Kenr on the TDC forum came up with a product I've never even heard of - Plastidip rubber paint. Checking their tech sheets it looks like it might be ideal for painting into the fabric backing and reinforcing it! The rear view mirror, which was terminally de-silvered, turns out to have been an aftermarket clip-on one over the top of a virtually pristine original. Which is nice! The exhaust is basically rotted out from the front resonator back, but the resonator itself seems to have been a replacement very shortly before she came off road - the yellow wax crayon part number is still on it. Seeing as the back bit is basically straight pipework with a double bend at the end, should be no problem to make up a stainless replacement from off-the-shelf pipe and connectors. Next plan is to pull the engine so it can be tipped on it's side and the bores given a good soaking. Speaking of the engine, the dipstick shows that not only does she still have a full sump, but her oil is crystal clear, golden yellow - it literally could have come out of a bottle yesterday! Obviously oil will get changed as a matter of course, but it's really so clean I may have to bottle the old stuff up for posterity ;D
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Post by howard on Oct 31, 2010 16:34:05 GMT
Pah, 32s - they are so lovely, aren't they?
I've just come back from my workshop, and I have had my idea that I should sell one of the 32s reinforced. Not that I don't love it - far from it. But as they say, if you love something set it free.....
Mainly because someone has put an almighty scratch down the side of my Rover P4. Fine, it needs respraying anyway, but it's a DEEP scratch that has dug into the metal. If someones clobbered it by accident, fair enough but I wish they'd own up. These things happen, and I wouldn't be too cross about it. Someone has also busted one of my "skates" for moving cars around and returned it to me broken. I have no problem with anyone borrowing anything of mine so long as it comes back as it left.
I also hate it that everyone's rubbish ends up around my side too and I am expected to get rid of it. I have no problems doing my share, but I do feel I am being taken the pee out of.
I really do not want anything bad to happen to any of my cars, but least of all rare ones like 32s. They've already survived a scare when tried to burn them out of my workshop and I think its about time I moved into a smaller, more secure unit that only I have access to.
So chances are it will be cleaned up and sold. But on what can I base it's value???
eBay will tell me, but it will also expose me to messers although if I demand a deposit within 24 hours it should sort out the worst of them.
Anyway, moaning apart, I'm so delighted to hear and read about Matilda. She looks totally adorable.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 1, 2010 15:19:41 GMT
Going by what Matilda cost us, you'd better just give it away Howard - I'm sure we can fit another in at that price ;D Anyway, took a sneaky morning off from the assignment I'm doing today so I could go and have a little more play time. Let no-one say my priorities are flawed Started with a little test clean on part of a seat and a door card. I didn't dare do more than these patches because Sian really wants to do them but she wasn't available to start today. Anyway, using Ken's suggestion of upholstery cleaner and a tooth brush turned this: into this: Much more to do, but it's clearly going to come up well So then I got the back seat out so I could have a look at the vario. First thing I noticed was the wing-bolts to hold the back seat in (the same as the fronts are held by - this car is easy to get the seats out of!). That was quickly followed by marvelling at the most excellent condition of the under-seat area! Lifting the cover revealed a pair of belts that actually look servicable (if we didn't know how long they'd been standing) and pulleys with less rust than the unmentionable red 33 had when her belts went last! In case anyone's wondering, the odd angle of the rear pulleys is just because she's got her rear wheels off and the suspension is at full drop - still, it makes you realise how much abuse those belts have to take at times! The rear wheels and brake drums also came off (adjusters were actually free!) to reveal good drums (bonus) and (as expected) knackered shoes and cylinders: In fact, the shoes don't look all that bad but I really don't fancy trusting brakes to 30+ year old bonded linings! The marks on the drum are only stuck bits of shoe which come off happily with a little wire wool - must watch that asbestos dust though! Having successfully undone one of the (through the floor) seatbelt mounts I also got to lift the n/s carpet and check the footwell. Why was the other one not like this? ;D Finally, before wrapping it for lunch, I made a start on engine removal. The bumper, support bar and grille bolts all undid without complaint (although one of the bumper ones tried to round off with a 12-point socket forcing me to break out a single hex) and she now looks like something's actually happening to her: There she was left, with all other nuts and bolts gently marinading in penetrating oil ready for the next stage. So far I've found nothing that makes me doubt that, if I was determined to get the brakes sorted and the engine running quickly, this little car could actually be back on road in a week or so!
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Post by Richard DAF Webmeister on Nov 1, 2010 16:32:20 GMT
Matilda looks as if she could go waltzing very soon! Marvellous. I love those seats and the classy door trims complete with elasticated pockets.
Oooer!
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Post by Bob Scrivens on Nov 1, 2010 22:40:09 GMT
Those old type heater pipes were great at cutting down the noise entering the car, made of a type of paper and foil I believe?
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 2, 2010 17:20:42 GMT
Not much to report today - this is supposed to be a slow-time project, after all - but I managed to find an hour or so to feel that I'm doing something with it. Following a little bit of this: I got to have a better look at this: and this: Note that the cowl managed to fall apart, but the bits are there so it should go back together happily enough The only thing even close to difficult to undo was one exhaust bolt with slightly rounded corners and the hotspot pipe into the silencer. That took a fair bit of hammering to free up but, again, came out intact in the end. The engine bay looks sound all round - tops of the inner wings and all the other "common" rust points are all solid metal so with some paint round the bay and some Dinitrol under the wings she hopefully won't need welding for many years to come! There's a fair bit of surface rust but it is all surface and there's no oil to speak of so it should be easy enough to clean up and repaint in proper body colour. Which will be nice. The engine itself is also pretty rusty (and no closer to being unseized yet) but a little wire brushing and paint will soon make it look good and I'm hopeful that it'll free up well enough. If the minimal rust on all the other bits is any indication of the conditions it's been kept in then I don't think it's going to have any major internal rust. The clutch drum is also spinning freely with no sound of dragging shoes, although it will obviously be coming off to make sure before it goes back in. If the shoes are good they may get a couple of copper rivets each just to be sure they stay that way.
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Post by pauldaf44 on Nov 2, 2010 17:29:31 GMT
Not fair its just taken me 6 hours of heaving and swearing to relieve Gladys of her engine!
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 2, 2010 17:45:15 GMT
;D
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Post by kenr on Nov 2, 2010 18:56:41 GMT
This is a good thread. I've been mentioned twice now!
Keep up the good work Joe. Do try and get that stuff from Halfrauds. Yoy will notice the difference. Honest.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 2, 2010 22:58:54 GMT
Will do, Ken, but a freebie without travelling (the nearest Halfrauds is a 40 mile round trip!) seemed like a good idea to see what we're likely to achieve.
Meanwhile, just saw that I had an email back from Lancashire Archives today to the effect that they seem to have lost a lot of their vehicle records during the changeover to DVLA in the 70s but they'll have a look and see if Matilda is still there. Keeping fingers crossed!
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Post by iliria on Nov 3, 2010 0:06:20 GMT
i'm gonna go sulk that she looks better than isabel.... then attack her with spots
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 3, 2010 0:07:53 GMT
Or you cold attack Isabel with sandpaper and paint?
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Post by Onne on Nov 3, 2010 12:59:29 GMT
The latter sounds a better plan.. after all Isabel has already had a respray in her life, and Matilda hasn't (had as much)
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Post by 33grinder on Nov 3, 2010 13:07:12 GMT
I'm really impressed with both how sound Matilda is and also how quickly you've cracked on with things. Keep up the good work Joe!
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 3, 2010 15:04:12 GMT
RESULT!!!! ;D Looks like she may get to keep her own number
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Post by joe on Nov 3, 2010 19:04:19 GMT
I don't think I've ever been excited by door cards until I had seen those. They are superb. They look like they found some off cuts of the material used for covering the seats 1950's American Diners and used it up.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 3, 2010 19:15:20 GMT
I don't think I've ever been excited by door cards until I had seen those. They are superb. They look like they found some off cuts of the material used for covering the seats 1950's American Diners and used it up. ;D That's much the same reaction I had when I saw them. Car interiors rarely get me drooling - I think the last one that did was the pure red, shameless plastic, of the early Corvettes. But these cards had almost the same effect as Detroit's finest when I saw them
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 4, 2010 18:29:05 GMT
Tried a bit more cleaning today, after Sian took Ken's recommendation and got some Halfrauds cleaner yetserday. I'm getting really frustrated that I'm not allowed to do it all (Sian wants to) cos this is what happens with a few minutes by his method: Impressed, I decided to try it on the wood round the switchgear: and half the glovebox: Thank you, Ken, I'm convinced!!! Because I'm not allowed to do more of that, I then cracked on with some of the stuff I am allowed to do. The impeller came off the front of the engine with a little gentle persuasion: The back blades seem to have a bit of corrosion / damage on their tips which I hope won't be enough to cause problems. If it does then I'll just have to find a way to balance it! The reason for removing it was to get the engine cowls out of the way in order to do this: and inspect this: Even though the engine is still pretty solid, that doesn't look too bad and will hopefully free up and run nicely with a hone and new step-top rings - very kindly found for us already by MacP! I've also had a word with the owner of the workshop, who used to be a professional spray painter, and he's happy to help out getting her all shiny again. His advice is, as I'd expected, to do the repairs then give a couple of coats all over to match everything up nicely. We have primer but no paint at the moment so he's suggested making a start on that over the weekend. As he said, no paint means no point in rushing the prep to get the colour back on ;D
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Post by 33grinder on Nov 4, 2010 19:22:12 GMT
That cleaning is paying dividends now Joe, well done you! Generally I hate cleaning and detailing, but when the results are so clear it becomes a pleasure. I definately make you right. Do the mechanics first and the paint can follow. You might as well empty the rest of the engine bay and get some paint in there though.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 4, 2010 19:36:41 GMT
Ohh, it'll be a bit more than "empty the engine bay". There's a weld repair needed to the bottom of the driver's door, so that'll be coming off (easier to do flat). If that's coming off then the other may as well follow. Which means the sill plates and carpets might as well come off. The wooden dash needs new screws so out it comes, leaving the plastic underneath to be masked. By the time the topcoat goes on, it should be as close to an empty shell as it can get with the wheels still on (although we'll probably put it on stands and pull them off for the spraying itself - much easier than masking them). About the only bits that will (probably) get left are the front and rear screens because I don't want to risk breaking them.
Then paint, then lots of Dinitrol in all cavities, then up on the lift and clean / rust treat / underbody wax underneath. Oh, and get some paint on the various suspension bits while it's there. Then put all the cleaned and (hopefully) working bits back together.
Like I said somewhere, there's no real hurry on this one and the work involved costs nothing but time so no excuse to cut corners!
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Post by pauldaf44 on Nov 4, 2010 20:06:16 GMT
Good progress there Joe.
I noticed you where complaining about corrosion in the impellor which suprised me. I wonder when DAF started using plastic ones like Gladys has fitted. What's on your 33s? Plastic, Ally or Steel?
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 4, 2010 20:17:31 GMT
Plastic on Betty, this one's alloy
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Post by 33grinder on Nov 4, 2010 22:45:45 GMT
That means Tigga will have a metal impellor, great! Shame you have to remove that dash Joe, but as you need to do it I'd be most grateful for a template of it! ;D If you need to remove that front parcel shelf (for cleaning of course) then I'd be grateful to know how it is attached as I have one ready to go into Gavina.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 4, 2010 23:02:51 GMT
No worries with the post, Rich, it's not like we're waiting to get her back on road (well, ok, we are - but not like that ) As for the screens, I agree that they should really come out but, as far as I've looked so far, there's no sign of paint faults or corrosion on the surrounds and I'd rather not take even a slight risk of breakage. Apart from anything else, if I do break one unneccessarily doing this, then that's one less available for when someone needs one to keep their car on road. Obviously, once we get to the serious "looking for rust" stage, if there's any sign under the seals then plans will change accordingly
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Post by kenr on Nov 4, 2010 23:34:28 GMT
Told ya!!!!!!! Hehehehe.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Nov 5, 2010 18:20:31 GMT
Sian got motivated today to get on with the seats While I was putting up lighting (we were using a double 500w halogen flood as a temp measure but that's not really fair on the owner's electricity bill ) she got them looking like this: The fronts will need another going over but that seems to be down to the over-enthusiastic youngster down there who jumped in and "cleaned" them with leather conditioner when she arrived. Funnily enough, apart from taking off the very loose surface stuff, the main effect of that was to seal the soot in! Still, they're getting there fast and you could certainly sit on them now without worrying about your clothes ;D Meanwhile, having got some lighting up, I cracked on with the engine. The other head came off to reveal a little more rust than the first, but still not enough to scare me yet: Having had the first one soaking well for 24 hours I decided to try a little naughty: It's probably not in the "how to unseize an engine" manual but it did the job. There is now definate movement on that piston: Yes, I know it's only about 2 thou but the other side is still tight and movement is movement! The o/s one has been left with gentle pressure on it and an awful lot of penetrating oil - hopefully it'll decide to give up the struggle by the next time I go down
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Post by v8gasser on Nov 5, 2010 19:19:38 GMT
Looking good ! Hey , at this rate , Matilda will be done by January , so can I pop mine down and then collect her , rebuilt , in March ?.......*=)
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Post by 33grinder on Nov 5, 2010 20:32:14 GMT
Well done to you both, that's good progress there!
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Post by kenr on Nov 6, 2010 22:12:58 GMT
Good to see that little blue bottle by the seats Joe. Well done to Sian, the seats are looking great. Another going over will see them ok I reckon. Don't forget the other spray to protect them.
Fantastic progress mate, hugely inspiring.
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