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Post by daf44 on Mar 2, 2010 22:19:35 GMT
hi paul.
that is using FAR too much fuel. check for a leak first, then check your figures again.
even with a lead boot on you should still get twice that mileage.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Mar 3, 2010 19:48:31 GMT
She runs! Not only that, she seems to run quite well. I haven't had a chance to test her (or tune her) properly but a quick wizz round the block (big rural one) seems promising. First of all, the pinking has reduced very noticably. She still does a little but markedly less than she was and that's on 95 RON using standard 9 degree timing. Second, the exhaust drone that started creeping in around 50mph seems to have gone (or at least reduced a lot). That's probably down to replacing the two sort of square bends I'd, err, bent in the tail-pipe with proper smoothly bent pipe :oops: Didn't have a chance to get her fast enough to know if it's gone completely but it seems hopeful. Finally, I can't be sure on her performance because every time I put my foot down some prat appeared and got in my way. What I can say is that she used to run out of steam around 45 in 3rd gear. She'd keep accelerating up to about 50 but watching the speedo was like watching tectonic plates move. I chickened out at 55 today cos she didn't really seem to be slowing up and I don't like being cruel to her. She also seems to be running a little cooler, although that was never a problem anyway. And I haven't even replaced the air filter yet (as in, the housing or the element) so that's probably choking her back a little So, initial test suggests a complete transformation
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Post by pauldaf44 on Mar 3, 2010 19:57:45 GMT
Thats good to hear. I might have to find an excuse to come and have a look would be nice to see the difference that sought of work makes 1st hand.
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Post by dafdaffer on Mar 3, 2010 20:59:27 GMT
well done Joe, doing the engine on nylo is going to take a while. i think that i need a floor first ;D
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Post by daf44 on Mar 3, 2010 21:50:05 GMT
glad to hear that Joe.
i am half way through a crank regrind on my morris 1100 and hope to have that running again on the weekend.
it is a great feeling when you do major work like that and it seems to make a noticeable difference straight away.
maybe you won't need the water injection after all.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Mar 6, 2010 18:02:01 GMT
With a bit more road testing, the overall results so far are a little disappointing. She'll certainly pull further in each gear (up to 48 in second which is around 6250 RPM) but acceleration through the gears is less than a new stock one. Motor road test figures for 3rd gear were 20 - 40 in 6.9 seconds and 30 - 50 in 8.9. She's managing 20 - 40 in 8.0 seconds and 30 - 60 in 10.3. I guess that's not bad for a 41 year old with 102k on the clock, but still not what I'd hoped for after all the work. Compression is good, and even, across all cylinders but the tappets are still a little noisy and very hard to find the "right" point to set them - almost as if there isn't really a heel left on the cams. Given that the old cam followers looked like this, it was maybe a bit optimistic to hope that the cams were still ok So it looks like next stop has to be head off again and cam out (not an easy job on these - Haynes says it's an engine-out one but I think I can get away with rad out, front grille off, and maybe cut a small access hole ). Probably quite high priority as well unless I want to replace my nice new followers again. So now just need to source a good camshaft.... On the plus side, if she's getting that close to original performance and the cam is bad then there should be a huge improvement once that's done
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Post by stefan on Mar 6, 2010 22:36:13 GMT
No idea what the cam is like in my 1360 engine Joe but the engine seemed to run ok when it was taken out.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Mar 7, 2010 1:50:14 GMT
Think I'll need to get hold of one before I get a chance to get near your engine, Stefan, but I still want to negotiate for it as a rebuild contender - those little engines have a lot of possibilities if they're being done slow-time without taking the car off road (I believe 100HP + is fairly easy with the right tweaks ). Meanwhile, there are a couple of TDC members checking their parts stores for cams and the guy I got the car off has one available if needed - but I'm reluctant to buy off him cos it was supposed to come with the car (I forgot about it till I got back here) and he wants more than postage for it which seems a little off seeing as it was part of the original sale There's also EBay, of course, but they seem to have dried up on there at the moment, and new Spitfire ones are available for around £90 if I have to go that way.
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Post by stefan on Mar 7, 2010 8:11:16 GMT
MK3 spitfire is the one you want its the hotest standard profile bump stick, not all spitfire cams are the same
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Post by pauldaf44 on Mar 7, 2010 8:14:09 GMT
Joe if you send me a picture of what im looking for I'll have a look at the triumph spares show at stoneleigh today
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Post by spunkymonkey on Mar 9, 2010 14:51:04 GMT
Just ran a DTI across Sheila's valves to see if I could confirm any cam wear that way before thinking about pulling her apart again. Didn't bother trying to check duration because I figured if there was bad wear it should show in the lift figures, which are easier. Now, I don't know what the book figures for valve lift are for these are but I bet they don't read like this: Cylinder | Inlet lift | Exhaust lift | 1 | 0.078" | 0.285" | 2 | 0.230" | 0.191" | 3 | 0.198" | 0.234" | 4 | 0.239" | 0.287" |
So, No1 needs an iron lung just to stay alive, No2 breathes ok but suffers slight constipation at the other end, No 3 does its best (when it's not having mild asthma attacks) and No4 is off down the gym every night cos it's gotta do all the work for the other 3. I'm quite looking forward now to seeing what this bump stick looks like when it comes out. Maybe it was an early (and therefore extremely valuable) attempt at VVT, made by grinding each lobe to a different profile? Maybe someone accidentally fitted a piece of modern art by James Corbett (again, possibly valuable) instead of the new cam they'd ordered? Or maybe it's just completely and utterly shagged to the point that she really has no business still running
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Post by Onne on Mar 9, 2010 15:52:12 GMT
Crikey, sounds like A-seriesitus... They run on just about anything, even with the timing massively out and a burnt valve
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Post by stefan on Mar 9, 2010 18:13:37 GMT
Looking forward to seeing that cam joe must be well and truly had it, looks like you need a trip down my way to pick up a replacement.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Mar 9, 2010 22:49:29 GMT
May well do, Stefan. there are a couple of possible leads on the TDC who can post one if they can find it but if not I really think a trip to Derbycestershire might be in order. Only trouble is, having seen how much must be missing from those lobes (like about 1/8 inch from one!) I think it'd have to be a Betty trip if I wanted to be sure of getting home again ;D
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Post by pauldaf44 on Mar 10, 2010 9:21:38 GMT
Or seeing as im going to Holyhead next week I could pick it up and bring it you.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Mar 10, 2010 12:03:07 GMT
Nice plan, Paul, but I believe it's in a fully built-up engine at the moment which would make it a little bit big (and heavy - it's a solid cast-iron lump!) to drop in your boot ;D
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Post by stefan on Mar 10, 2010 13:26:18 GMT
Yes it is still in one big lump, still has the gearbox on as well.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Mar 10, 2010 14:39:53 GMT
Yes it is still in one big lump, still has the gearbox on as well. Mmmm, 4 wheel drive conversion......... ;D
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Post by pauldaf44 on Mar 10, 2010 14:40:25 GMT
Well if you could get whatever bits you need out for wednesday Id have no problem taking it for you.
Otherwise speak to covcourier on the TDC forum he goes everywhere and has said if hes all ready got a van going in a direction hes happy to put parts in them for triumph owners.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Mar 11, 2010 16:29:16 GMT
I finally got to do a direct comparison of Sheila's performance today. There's a hill on the A55 on the way to Bangor which she always dropped to 55 on, even at full throttle. Not really a problem cos I tend to drive her around 50 anyway, but it was a useful gauge of how she's running. I went in today to pick up new oil, filters and plugs for the stable and she flew up at just over 60. So, even with one cylinder barely able to get any air in, that seems to be about a 10% increase in hill-climbing power. Which suggests that once the cam is sorted she should be confortably beating those book figures. I feel a little happier again now
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Post by pauldaf44 on Mar 11, 2010 16:36:00 GMT
good for you mate, you deserve too youve put enough effort into that car. So its only fair you should reap the rewards. Mine seems to run out of puff in 3rd at about 65mph but being a law abiding citizen ive never tested it in 4th. Also mine looses a lot of speed on hills. As a gauge if you know the road mine drops to about 50 on a hill on the A46 just south of the M40 the DAF will do it at about the same speed.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 21, 2010 22:09:05 GMT
Seeing as I'm still waiting for Sheila's new camshaft to turn up, and I haven't felt like tackling paintwork the past week or so, I've finally dug out her new period choons system and got it ready to fit. Of course, it's been lightly modified to play through her existing stereo cos the poor old germanium output transistors probably couldn't cope with the demands I'd put on it but I am soooo looking forward to getting it plumbed in. Just need to work out where to fit it! I have a few tapes that I've lovingly repaired this evening (reset the tensions, cleaned the pinch rollers and replaced the nasty rotted foam pressure pads) and they sound great! I'm also waiting for these two beauties to arrive off the Bay: Go on, admit it, who's feeling just a teensy of bit period-accessory-jealousy ? ;D Of course, in order to do it justice, Adam's old door speakers had to go, so she's had a pair of these fitted as a sort of proof-of-concept cos I had them lying around: They really need boxing in for protection and to improve the channel separation but they seem to work well enough for now. And, of course, there's the eternal problem of parcel shelves and holes. Without holes, the shelf just muffles everything too much. But this seems to have done the trick:
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Post by 33grinder on Apr 21, 2010 23:52:48 GMT
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Post by stefan on Apr 22, 2010 7:00:53 GMT
Liking the 8 track I have one somewere?. Have you got a cam or do you still want the one in my engine.
If so you will have to have a trip over and collect everything.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 22, 2010 9:27:56 GMT
I should have a cam on its way, thanks Stefan. One of the TDC members has had one boxed up ready to send for the past couple of weeks but kept not managing to post it. It had got as far as the front seat of his car yesterday, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I should know in the next few days if he actually found a post office with it ;D
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Post by stefan on Apr 22, 2010 12:56:05 GMT
No problem mate just let me know if you need it
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Post by pauldaf44 on Apr 22, 2010 15:26:00 GMT
Joe if thats Justyn you meen if he hasn't posted it by the 30th when i'll be seeing him i'll grab it off him and post it ;D
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Post by spunkymonkey on May 8, 2010 22:03:05 GMT
After a couple of days fairly intensive spannering Sheila is now as ready as she'll ever be for her MOT. Didn't find too much to sort but it was all nasty time-consuming stuff: A couple more patches to add to her collection which I did a couple of weeks ago (one back of the n/s/f inner wheelarch and one top of the o/s/f inner wing. New rear brake pipes (flexis to wheel cylinders) that he probably would have passed but I didn't like the look of. That involved drilling a new hole in the cast alloy trailing arm thanks to a sheared off clamp screw. I'm a little dubious on the pipes because it's a sliding cylinder and I've had to use copper pipe. But the pipes are routed with a big loop round the hub so hopefully the flexing isn't enough to fatigue it. Still, if anyone has had personal experience of the (hopefully mythical) fatigue failing copper brake pipes please let me know! Steering u/j that had seized last year now had lots of play but tightened up nicely with applications of the adjusting mallet. n/s/f sidelight bulb had exploded and was rusted into the holder - which I'd had to rebuild last year (they're a known trouble spot). Ended up having to grind the bits out with a Dremel! Rusty stuff cleaned off both sills, treated and repainted. A tip here - if you're using a vacuum cleaner on "blow" as a spray compressor then don't put it on dry dusty ground - the dust all ends up in the paint So, she'll be booked in next week and hopefully ready for another year's fun
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Post by kenr on May 8, 2010 22:22:09 GMT
Good luck mate. I am sure she'll do it.
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Post by spunkymonkey on May 8, 2010 22:40:59 GMT
Cheers, Ken. Not going to mention it to the TDC lot till it's in the bag - they've had too good a run of straight passes lately to embarass myself if I've missed anything
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