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Jun 4, 2008 9:35:47 GMT
Post by dafpunk on Jun 4, 2008 9:35:47 GMT
Hi all, I've just joined your forum. I don't own a Daf, but I'm interested in owning one.
Have you got any tips on what to look out for when buying a Daf 55? Maybe you know where a buyer's guide is on the net?
All the best, Kev.
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Jun 4, 2008 12:40:51 GMT
Post by scooters on Jun 4, 2008 12:40:51 GMT
good luck finding one. In Practical Classics a couple of months back they featured the 55 as endangered as there are only 12 left on the road (according to the DVLA) if your heart is set on a 55 rather than an aircooled 33 or 44 you might be better off looking in Holland. Welcome aboard!
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Jun 4, 2008 14:08:51 GMT
Post by veeruk on Jun 4, 2008 14:08:51 GMT
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Jun 4, 2008 17:14:44 GMT
Post by dafpunk on Jun 4, 2008 17:14:44 GMT
That's the one I'm thinking of buying. Do you lot know of this car then?
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Jun 4, 2008 22:41:39 GMT
Post by Richard DAF Webmeister on Jun 4, 2008 22:41:39 GMT
I was wondering where Nellie had got to and what had happened to her.
We know this car from years back. The original owner was a member of the club right from the beginning until I think the mid 1990s. It was then sold to another enthusiastic member who spent time living and working in Birmingham and Brighton.
I know of only one other 55 estate on the road, so hopefully Nellie will be OK. Try not to modify her too much tho! Actually, performance wise, a 55 with tuning and timing sorted along with the Vario, will nearly always win the traffic light Grand Prix, much to the annoyance of everyone else.
So... hope you go for it - and maybe we'll see it again!!
I've got a pic of her at one of our Concours from a couple of years ago - I'll pop it onto the events pages in the next day or two.
Let us know how you get on - and any advice etc., we're here.
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Jun 5, 2008 9:36:25 GMT
Post by dafpunk on Jun 5, 2008 9:36:25 GMT
I wasn't aware that they were that rare. Don't worry, if I win the auction, I won't be modifing it that much if I win. And, just like my Porsche, I never do any mod's that can't be reversed. And I always keep the original parts.
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Jun 6, 2008 11:41:11 GMT
Post by dillyman on Jun 6, 2008 11:41:11 GMT
Unless you are a whizz with the welder &c. I suspect that the rust areas in the pix will cost you more than the car to eliminate. Saab 96 cars are sometimes written off when severe rust attacks the windscreen/bulkhead area due to the projected expense of rectification. Saabs are usually selling for more than Dafs. My low mileage Daf 44 estate without rust I bought for very low hundreds about seven years ago I think. Don't that deter you if you're really keen. They are such fun cars and will charm you to bits when you get used to their ways which doesn't take long! Good luck. Marcus.
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Jun 6, 2008 12:53:33 GMT
Post by dafpunk on Jun 6, 2008 12:53:33 GMT
I'm not really that put off by the rust that's shown in the pictures. I could repair that myself, but it would be much easier if the repair panels were available. I suspose I'd have to fabricate some. What are the floors/bulkheads/etc like for rusting on these cars?
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Jun 6, 2008 16:45:23 GMT
Post by dafpunk on Jun 6, 2008 16:45:23 GMT
Umm, yeah, the problem with this one that's on eBay is it's in Southampton & I'm in Birmingham & I haven't got time to view it before bidding. But if the discription and pictures are anything to go by it ain't too bad. At least it's got an M.O.T. I'm just not sure what to bid up to.
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Jun 6, 2008 17:50:35 GMT
Post by dafpunk on Jun 6, 2008 17:50:35 GMT
Thanks for the advice. I won't let my heart rule my head then.
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Jun 6, 2008 20:47:43 GMT
Post by Richard DAF Webmeister on Jun 6, 2008 20:47:43 GMT
I've just re-read the ebay advert for Nellie, and the bit about the clutch needing replacing, and "being noisy on take-off" makes me wonder whether the drum will also need replacing...
This is because a DAF will still drive on worn clutch shoes for a while, but on the 55 (and 33 and 44) the shoes, having lost their linings, will be making metal to metal contact with the clutch drum. The metal shoes will "score" and wear away at the drum lining. This will make quite a noise, especially when pulling off.
After a while, it will all get too much. Now, if new clutch shoes and linings are fitted (which means removing the engine) that's fine, but if the drum has been scored or worn, then the new shoes, as they "fly out" with the centrifugal force, will not have a smooth or even-surface to engage with (i.e. the clutch drum). So, at best, the car will be rough to drive, or will not move much as the shoes will have nothing to engage to, and the engine will appear to rev highly with the car not moving (much).
Very soon, the whole lot will have to be taken out again and a new clutch drum will have to be found. And these are, like other things, are rather like hens teeth. It may be possible to "skim" the drum, but if too much has to be skimmed away, again, it means that the shoes will not have much to make contact with...
Sorry if this is off-putting or complicated!
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Jun 7, 2008 8:26:15 GMT
Post by veeruk on Jun 7, 2008 8:26:15 GMT
Well, to be honest I was going to try to get Nelly. She is at £ 260 at the moment. I don't understand why people bid on something that has still 4 days to run. Surely you are bumping up the price all the time. Unless that is what they want to do. The sound of the clutch does not sound right to me either. Then I have got all these 66 parts and half of them won't fit on her lol. Naah, I'm keeping to the 66 and the 33, I'll concentrate on them. Glad I had that wake up call hehe
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Jun 7, 2008 9:04:02 GMT
Post by dillyman on Jun 7, 2008 9:04:02 GMT
I had thought seriously about bidding on this one too - until I read that Daf Punk was interested. Then my head started to rule - rare for me - and I thought that sending good wishes would be the better option! After all my 44 "Dilly" is still in fine fettle. What more could one want? Marcus
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Jun 7, 2008 10:51:58 GMT
Post by daf44 on Jun 7, 2008 10:51:58 GMT
hi.
i have never heard of an aluminium clutch drum on anything else. The drum on my 44 is cast steel, same as the brake drums.
If it is steel on the 55 then the chances of it being badly scored are much lower. a good machine shop could re-metal and reline a badly scored drum in any case. good luck with the bidding.
paul44
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Jun 7, 2008 11:52:13 GMT
Post by Richard DAF Webmeister on Jun 7, 2008 11:52:13 GMT
Sorry, I think I was getting tired and confused! No, on reflection, I don't think the drum is aluminum. They do get scored though and if too far gone, have to be replaced.
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Jun 7, 2008 15:45:46 GMT
Post by spunkymonkey on Jun 7, 2008 15:45:46 GMT
Thanks for the advice. I won't let my heart rule my head then. If you want to have a little look round the range, I've just posted a 1972 advertising brochure at: www.dafmobile.ournet.org.uk/literature.htmlDoesn't cover the 55 (discontinued by then) but some nice pics of 44s & 66s. Only one of a 33 though
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Jun 7, 2008 16:38:42 GMT
Post by dkbhojani2 on Jun 7, 2008 16:38:42 GMT
hi, all clutch shoes for 55 were made of aluminium and the bonded linning got thinner with wear and eventually shoes would make contact with drum scorching it as result. There is a limit to how much inner diameter can be skimed of the drum !! unless you detact it very early and examin all 8 shoes one by one through a small inspection hole in rear of drum. Tricky but possible.................. Eric B
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Jun 8, 2008 10:51:02 GMT
Post by dafpunk on Jun 8, 2008 10:51:02 GMT
Umm, now you're starting to put me off too. It's not the work involved in replaceing these parts, it's the finding the parts in the first place.
I don't know why people place bids so early either? You should be the first bidder or only bid in the last momments of the auction.
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Jun 10, 2008 5:38:29 GMT
Post by dafpunk on Jun 10, 2008 5:38:29 GMT
Well, it sold for £480 (Not to me). That was far too expensive in my view. What with the clutch on it's way out too. £320 was the maximum I was prepared to pay.
Oh well, I'll have to keep on looking. Thanks for all the advice.
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Jun 10, 2008 9:33:52 GMT
Post by daf44 on Jun 10, 2008 9:33:52 GMT
don't worry too much.
something will turn up eventually.
happy hunting.
paul44
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Jun 10, 2008 10:09:57 GMT
Post by spunkymonkey on Jun 10, 2008 10:09:57 GMT
That does seem a bit steep. Ours was a little more than that, but with no real problems and free storage / work space thrown in for as long as we need it. Just be aware that after the recent coverage of these prices do seem to be rising a bit. We wouldn't have even thought of one without that. Especially with the work space, we were happy to agree a bit over the odds (according to the "book" price) when we found one but, ultimately, that's what sets the book price. More interest = more cash to get one!
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Jun 10, 2008 13:05:53 GMT
Post by dafdaffer on Jun 10, 2008 13:05:53 GMT
This car was originally up for £1000, in my opinion that is about right considering that the club only knows of two 55 estates, you should get that sort of price in holland, i know that it is what you would pay for it ............... i paid £1000 for a austin 1300 once and it was a complete rustbox with coversills on not an unwelded body, look at other classics on the market nowdays, the clutch is a half a days job and the parts are easy to get. i paid £500 for gladdys which is cheap for a classic car, if i would have had £400 that car would be in my garage ;D
Paul
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Jun 10, 2008 13:18:22 GMT
Post by scooters on Jun 10, 2008 13:18:22 GMT
Just put my 44 up for sale - details on the sales & wants page. sadly, I need something with 5 doors and in which I can fit rear seat belts - used every day
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Jun 10, 2008 14:33:33 GMT
Post by dafpunk on Jun 10, 2008 14:33:33 GMT
This car was originally up for £1000, in my opinion that is about right considering that the club only knows of two 55 estates, you should get that sort of price in holland, i know that it is what you would pay for it ............... i paid £1000 for a austin 1300 once and it was a complete rustbox with coversills on not an unwelded body, look at other classics on the market nowdays, the clutch is a half a days job and the parts are easy to get. i paid £500 for gladdys which is cheap for a classic car, if i would have had £400 that car would be in my garage ;D Paul Yeah, I see where you're comin' from with the price. I've just sold a Mini Pick-up shell for £1100. Not because it's a Mini, but because it's a Pick-up.
The thing that put me off was getting the parts to fit it. I wanted to use the Daf 55 as my main everyday transport and I was worried about it being off the road with just small problems, because the parts would not be available.
I would suspect that this sort of Daf would fetch more in Holland, as there must be more ready available spares. I wouldn't be able to wait days or weeks for the parts to arrive.
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