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Post by 33grinder on Apr 4, 2011 20:17:07 GMT
Sometimes you just get the idea that they don't appreciate they work being put into them. ;D Hope that's a problem sorted and even if you do have to pull the engine (hope not! ) you've still done bloomin' well, schedule or not. Keep up the good work!
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Post by Nick the man with a daf.... on Apr 4, 2011 21:15:00 GMT
amazing progress.. thats for sure !
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 5, 2011 21:32:45 GMT
Didn't get to running today In fact, didn't even get to the workshop having spent all available time chasing round after a nearly-dead Rover. Pete, have you been speaking to the Car Gods to slow me down or something? Just a little suspicious because of the marque connection, you understand
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Post by 33grinder on Apr 5, 2011 22:17:30 GMT
;D ;D Not me Joe, to me the SD1 was the last (half) decent car that they built, maybe the 800 vitesse at a pinch, but not all that 400 malarky! ;D What's gone wrong with it? PS Probably not a car-led plan but that of the driver seeking revenge on you for not fixing Isabelle?
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 6, 2011 17:01:18 GMT
Looks like a random coil pack failure, Pete. Just one of those things - and it may not be a real Rover but I do like those Honda engines (as much as I like anything with engine management!) Anyway, heading back to Matilda in a minute to pull her engine again Finally got her started late this afternoon after her fuel pump decided to fail (having worked perfectly when test running her!). Took her for a drive - about 2 ft forwards then 2 ft backwards a couple of times - then turned off and had a look round to see all was well. It wasn't. There was a nice 2 foot line of oil drips. Of course, it can't be from anywhere easy - it's the n/s inlet (rear) pushrod tube. Not sure if it's the tube itself or the seal to the head that hasn't worked but, either way, it's engine out and head off to fix. Not a terribly happy teddy and now looking at a late (and oily) night to get back on schedule. Ahh, the joys of classic car ownership!!! ;D
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Post by Nick the man with a daf.... on Apr 6, 2011 18:17:46 GMT
look at it this way mate... at least you didnt leave a 2 mile long line of drips followed by siezure... better to have caught it now than on road test . .man of your calibre 'll ahve that whipped in no time
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Post by Bob Scrivens on Apr 6, 2011 20:52:09 GMT
Hi Joe you can remove the push rod tubes, with out removing the engine. You just have enough room to move the head off the barrel, to juggel the push rod and tube out.
Bob.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 6, 2011 21:56:01 GMT
Thanks Bob - after posting above I wondered about that and phoned Pete, who thought you probably could and I vaguely remembered Dafdaffer doing the job on the Blue Bullet a couple of years ago. Couldn't find the thread so tried calling him but seem to have an old number so called Stef, who confirmed that it could be done. So I started taking apart. I already had the cowling off to try and confirm where it was coming from: Next comes the rocker cover: And the head nuts + rockers: Disconnect the inlet manifold: and, if appropriate, the hotspot pipes: Disconnect the heat exchanger from the silencer, and also the 2 bolts holding it to the cross brace: Support engine with a jack: And undo the end of the engine mounting bar, allowing that side to drop: You can now remove the pushrods through the wheelarch: Slide the head away from the cylinder and remove the pushrod tubes from under the car: The tubes were then "stretched" by about 10mm to provide clamping force when refitted and checked for holes by sucking on them to make sure they could hold a vacuum. The seals (visually ok and still flexible) were liberally coated in gasket compound to try and ensure a seal this time: The whole thing was then put back together and tried again. Thetube seeem to be sealed now, but a new leak has developed from one of the rocker pedestal holes. Grrr........ At least that one involves a lot less disassembly On an unrelated but more positive note, Sian has lovingly hand carved some new foam for the dash top. It's only balanced in place for now but looking good Finally for today, I'm afraid I'm not totally convinced by the seating position..... ;D
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Post by stefan on Apr 7, 2011 6:37:24 GMT
Nice work that Je she will be finished in no time
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Post by Richard DAF Webmeister on Apr 7, 2011 16:12:36 GMT
Yes, DAFDaffer did indeed change the push rod tube for my Blue Bullet in a remarkably short space of time on what was, if I remember correctly, a very cold day!
I don't think he took the front panel off either, but can't be sure about that.
I just sat in the shed working on a magazine in between making cups of coffee.
I know my place!
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Post by pauldaf44 on Apr 7, 2011 17:47:15 GMT
Youve got me wondering whether the same is possible on a 44. I may have to investigate
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 7, 2011 20:18:41 GMT
No photo update today because there was progress but not really visible - she's now back in the "engine assembled and in" state that she was a couple of days ago. The chief difference is that she's now not leaking oil and has all her exhaust mounts in place. the leak was sorted by the simple idea of remove the rockers and add an O ring over the existing seals so that when the rockers were refitted and tightened everything gets sqashed harder and fills any gaps that the old, worn, seals were having trouble with Other than that, not a lot was done to her because I had to finally sort out the oil leak on Sheila, having used just over a litre of the stuff to go 40 miles to Bangor and back Turns out it was the oil pressure switch (the switch itself, not the connection!) and was only leaking when (a) the oil was fully warm and thin, and (b) the engine was running above idle. Hence the difficulty I'd had tracing it! Still, tomorrow beckons and she should get a grille and bonnet (and possibly windscreen) which will just leave carpets, seats, dash and doors. Every little helps
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 8, 2011 19:05:28 GMT
We have progress, and we have a few photos (I believe we like phots as well as updates?) First things first, her V5 turned up today so I'm officially hers now Low mileage, only 2 previous owners, with the last change happening when she came off road on 1st May 1978. Could make a good selling point not that we're going to Next up is, the engine came out again today - I think I'm catching the Rover bug ;D I wasn't completely happy about the vibration at certain revs and also noticed while crawling around sorting oil leaks that the o/s engine mount was starting to separate. They'd looked ok out of the car but, with the engine weight on them, it was obviously not all that happy. So it had to come out. For the prop, I suspected that the hammering I'd mentioned might have had something to do with it: As I said, it didn't look all that bad in itself but the bit I didn't take into account was the way a fairly small dent there can distort the rubber: So the spline at that end wasn't in line with the prop tube - pretty well guaranteed to cause vibration! The replacement got checked very carefully before fitting because if there was any doubt I was prepared to pull Isabel's as a known good one but the only problem I could see was one rivet missing on a balance weight: That was sorted easily enough, so in it went. Much reassembly later and..... no, no, no no vibrations [cut to Beach Boys] Happy with that, I had a look at her lack of charging. The dynamo was producing power with the output and field connected so that suggested a control box fault. Sure enough, the voltage regulator contacts were a little corroded, so the dynamo was effectively turned off all the time. A quick bit of wet & dry action has the light going out as it's meant to. Spurred on by these successes I rounded up the evening by refitting her grille. This was the one bit I forgot to clean up and paint, so it's had to go back on as is for now. There are some rust bubble on it, but nothing too obvious, and the paint match is pretty well spot on! The plan now is to blitz the rest of the reassembly over the weekend and try to get her in for MOT middle of the week. It's my birthday on Thursday and driving in for a shiny new tax disc would make a nice present to myself
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Post by 33grinder on Apr 8, 2011 21:56:42 GMT
;D I think you have caught the Rover bug Joe, maybe Paul brought it back to Wales and it has spread! Dont worry, the profanities decrease with each removal/installation and when they stop all together then everything will work properly, or so I'm hoping. So how did the new prop fit? Glad I was sort of along the right lines when I asked if your prop was out of balance.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 8, 2011 22:14:42 GMT
New prop went in fine, although still needed a little persuasion over the first half inch or so of the rear splines. Ideally I should be dropping the primary and cleaning the splines up properly but the tight spot shouldn't affect it in use, only when fitting / removing. The trick is to tap it from the other end (close fitting socket and extension against the front spline insert) not hammer the bejesus out of the tube itself ;D Vibration has virtually disappeared, there's just a very slight one at a particular engine speed but you can only feel it sitting on the floorpan itself. I dropped a seat in loose to try and it doesn't transmit through the seat or into the dash or other parts of the shell - I suspect that there would have been that level of vibration even from the factory so all good there Tomorrow should be finish under-bonnet (heater pipes, heater cables and aircleaner), then bonnet on, refit dash and screen in. If I get an early start there may be time to drop the carpet and seats in at that point, which will just leave doors to hang and rebuild (glass, locks etc) on Sunday. Getting really excited now.........
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 9, 2011 19:47:13 GMT
Got hit by sunshine today (around 18 degrees C most of the day) but resisted the call of the beach and carried on regardless First job this morning was to get insurance - yes, we really are that close! So that she should be on the MID in plenty of time, she is now fully insured despite not actually being in one piece yet. MOT this week is definitely in the game plan now...... So, the first job was to get the heater cables sorted out (new bike cable inners fitted as I did with Betty and Isabel) and the heater hoses and aircleaner fitted: The observant among you may notice that the heater hoses aren't actually fitted in their little brackets. Both brackets are seized and it's one of those little details I'd forgotten to tackle (damn amateurs ) but they're secure where they are for now. I also hadn't got around to painting the aircleaner housing but I kinda like it as it is (it's patina, not rust ) so may just leave it as a reminder of how old she is. Once that was done, I had no excuse left to not fit the bonnet (apart from the hinges being a little awkward to reach under the dash) so on it went: Which then meant that I really had to fit the windscreen so that the screenwash would have something to aim at: Then it was time to start on the interior. I was hoping to get as far as carpets and seats today but that wasn't going to happen. It was a little too warm to work at full speed, so the order of the day was steady and enjoy it rather than sprint and sweat. I did get as far as dash top and dashboard fitted, with the steering wheel also being bolted back where it should be: So, tomorrow, she needs to have all the abandoned tools cleared out and the floorpan hoovered, followed by carpets and seats. Then there are doors to fit (and rebuild - glass etc) as well as bumpers, wipers, rear number plate and rear reflectors. At that point (just maybe tomorrow if I get my finger out) she should be ready to roll! There are still odd bits of tidying that will be needed (cutting / polishing paint, fitting side stripes etc) but they're the sort of thing that can be done once she's road legal. So Monday should be popping down to MOT man to ask when he can see her. Past excited and heading into delirious now..... ;D
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Post by 33grinder on Apr 9, 2011 22:09:10 GMT
Go Joe, Go! ;D
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 10, 2011 20:33:21 GMT
Ok, so I'm slower than I like to make out - failed to get both doors finished today so she's still locked inside tonight. What I did get done is as follows: Applied extra rust proofing to the floorpan on the basis that it won't be seen for a while once the carpets etc are in and I'd rather have the edges of the soundproofing soaked in rust converter than water: That allowed the rubber mats to be refitted: followed by the carpet. It was nice to see this back in place Before the seats went in I replaced the under-dash shelf, then remembered that I was going to make a pattern from it for John. Sorry John, it's only two screws so I'll pull it out again sometime and do one Once that was done, the front seats finally went back in: Then it was lunch break, followed by starting on the doors. The passenger one hung ok, but then I realised that I'd ended up with all the seal sections in one big pile - with no obvious clues to which came from which side of the car! That took a fair time to sort out and actually fitting the ones at the base of the glass took a while as well ("use a draw string" is all very well if you've got hands like a 6 year old and can actually get them in there! Having sorted all that out, in went the glass and the runners and adjusted it all to slide nicely. The quarterlight also went in ok, so went to fit the regulator mechanism. I'd fitted the wrong glass!!! So out it all came again (thankfully not the quarterlight) and I did it all again with the right one. At this point I decided to take a little break and put another can of fuel in her to make sure the gauge was working properly. It wasn't. With the float lifted to show a full tank, it was only reading half So I spent about 40 minutes sorting out the bad contact at the earth end of the sensing wire. That done, I returned to the door and fitted the card and winders: I couldn't fit the arm rest because I couldn't find a suitable size Phillips screwdriver! So I went round the other side and hung and adjusted the driver's door: By now it was about 7:30 so I called it a day after a quick bit of badge fitting: The rest can be done tomorrow. As for that Phillips screwdriver - as I was typing the above, I just remembered it'll be in the boot from doing the fuel sender ;D
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 11, 2011 19:36:42 GMT
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 11, 2011 21:06:23 GMT
No, it's no good, I can't leave it at that ;D First off, here is the windscreen sticker: It seems that clear sticker vinyl is available for inkjets now, so recreation is a definite possibility! But that's not what you want to hear about, is it? Ok, so........ At this point there was a small problem of a stall (she's running weak so needs choke) followed by a flat battery (I'd forgotten the interior light while working on her today ) but a quick jump start off Betty got her going again easily enough. I then made the mistake of turning my back for a minute..... Yes, that's Sian stealing her! Obviously I jumped into Betty and gave chase, finally catching them so that Tilly and Betty could meet: This did give a chance to take a nice photo of her out in the sunshine - I just wish Alex from the workshop hadn't stayed sat in her, but he was hard to get out (apparently she's dead comfy like) Her battery is now on charge, and I need to check the brakes (they work fine but not sure if they're up to full efficiency) and check the headlamp alignment. Oh, and get her warm and set that mixture properly! Then she's booked in for MOT at 1pm on Thursday. If she passes it'll be the bestest birthday present ever ;D
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Post by 33grinder on Apr 11, 2011 23:21:49 GMT
Top banana! Well done that man! Just rewards at last and enough of an incentive to finish the last few jobs.
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Post by Patrick on Apr 12, 2011 0:07:19 GMT
Bless! Like a couple of Spring Lambs Gambolling about the fields! Brilliant! Well done. (Edit) - You'll have to film her emerging from the barn - but with the music from the A-Team. Or perhaps even better - the Strauss piece used in 2001 A Space Odyssey as the door opens!
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 12, 2011 16:51:24 GMT
Cheers all Found a slight problem today when I snuck onto the road for a brake test. The stopping figures were fine (around 70 % foot and 30% hand) but if you apply the brakes then ease up without releasing all the way then apply them again the pedal goes down further. If you repeat that (though why you'd want to is a mystery) then you can get it to the floor over about 5 or 6 pumps. As soon as you release it fully it's back to normal. So that'll be a master cylinder problem to sort before Thursday. Probably steal Isabel's for now and investigate hers at my leisure but it still means swapping them and re-bleeding. So that'll be tomorrow's job Apart from that I just can't quite get over her different character and extra smoothness / refinement. Oh, and her somewhat over-damped bounciness with "like-new" shocks at the back. With the roads around here, the sooner they soften up a little the better to be honest!
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Post by kenr on Apr 12, 2011 22:28:22 GMT
Great stuff Joe, meant to ask, did it work out with that rubber paint?
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 13, 2011 6:40:03 GMT
The rubber paint certainly seemed to work, Ken. A can was barely enough to coat the whole carpet, so it ended up as quite a thin layer, but it seems to have stuck well, successfully sealed up a couple of splits, and stood up to some fairly vigorous Vaxing. Felt a lot less scary when I was putting it back it as well! ;D
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Post by kenr on Apr 13, 2011 6:41:45 GMT
Ah, that's good news. Thanks for letting me know.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 13, 2011 19:48:36 GMT
The brakes are now sorted. Couldn't use Isabel's cylinder in the end because she had a smaller bore version fitted (hence her longer than normal pedal movement and stronger than normal brakes!) Only, with Tilly having the vacuum valve to move as well (so needing more fluid) the pedal would have been nearly at the floor to do anything. Nothing technically wrong with "nearly" at the floor but not exactly confidence inspiring! So I stripped her own one again and the problem was obvious. There was a tear of about 4mm in the corner at the base of the primary seal! I'm not entirely sure how it was sealing at all but fitting a good used one for tomorrow has cured the sinking pedal syndrome Reseal kit now on the urgent to buy list obviously! After that it was time to break out the polishing compound and polisher for a quick initial go over the paint. The aim was not to get to her final finish but to clean it up enough to put the side stripes on - that way I won't have to work too hard up against them when going for a real shine. Initial results were promising: And it didn't take too long to get to stripe time: Then there was a break to fit a little bit of bling that Sian thought she'd like. She doesn't like thin steering wheels so picked up this completely tasteful little number a couple of days ago I think it actually works quite well ;D Although it was a complete PITA to fit because of the relatively large size of these wheels compared to modern stuff! The observant may notice that there's also now a tax disk holder fitted ready just in case it's needed tomorrow After all that she decided to play up and stall, then refuse to start with an apparently flat battery (again). Then she did turn over and start so I guess it's a bad earth rather than the battery. Hopefully it won't decide to play that sort of trick on the tester tomorrow cos I didn't have time to trace it. Apart from that my only slight concerns for tomorrow are seatbelts not exactly in pristine condition (webbing is a bit stiff and some rust stains round the fittings and adjusters) but do work, and the headlamp alignment which is as good as I can judge against a wall but it's not the clearest beam pattern in the world when checking against a wall 5 feet away (that's the furthest I could get in daylight and still see them). If she does fail on them I'll probably just get him to set them on the machine. So here she is, outside and ready to go (or as ready as she can be) for her first trip out in 33 years:
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Post by 33grinder on Apr 13, 2011 23:19:46 GMT
Indeed she's looking grand. Now go get that MOT!!
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Post by spunkymonkey on Apr 14, 2011 17:49:50 GMT
He decided that since it's last one was in 1977 he should check everything 33 times, then do this years, to be sure ;D She still passed though ;D ;D ;D Went from there immediately over to Sian's parents cos her mum wanted to see the new car, then over to Amlwch so the guy we got her off could see. So it was MOT followed by a 58 mile test drive. Snags picked up are: * She needs some choke even when warm - not at idle but when she's revving so suspect a partially blocked jet. * I forgot to check / set her vacuum valve linkage so she has no kickdown (makes hills a little sluggish!) * There's a bad connection / earth somewhere bhind the dash which occasionally makes the flasher unit work and flashes the dash warning (though not the lights) and makes the temp gauge flick between cold and it's true reading while also making the fuel gauge flick between it's true reading and a full tank. * She doesn't like cranking over when hot so engine earths need checking That's not really a bad list for 33 years off road and all original bits, including plugs points and air filter
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Post by 33grinder on Apr 14, 2011 19:59:58 GMT
Very well done Joe! Couldn't think of a more appropriate birthday present for you. ;D
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